discussion   |   photos   |   email   |   myProfile   |   home          Login Now | Sign Up


Forum Index


New As Posted | Active Subjects



Click to Post a New Message!

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > All Terrain Vehicles Forum

Page [ 1 ] |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo
 07-26-2005, 13:11 Post: 113912
Iowafun

TP Contributor

View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Central Iowa
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 955

Return to Full
 suspensions information needed

There are multiple reasons for ride differences. I'll appologize now if I go long, I used to work on off-road vehicle suspensions as an engineer.

First things first, a bigger ATV is typically heavier. Force equals mass x acceleration. So the heavier the machine, the less influence a bump will have on it (everything else being equal). A sport type ATV will have springs and shock valving designed for a more aggressive rider which happens to be a bit on the stiff side to handle jumps, etc. A non-sport ATV will typically have a softer ride due to the focus being more on ride quality than sport.

Another thing to consider is that ATV's have the springs and shocks set for a typically sized rider. It may vary and I don't know what it is. But it probably is around 160-180 lbs. So if you are 130, the ride would feel stiffer because you have less mass impacting the suspension. If you are a lighter rider, you can test this by attaching a weight close to where you sit and going over bumps you are familiar with and see the difference.

Now for suspension types. An ATV with independant front and rear suspensions will typically be a softer ride than one with a swing-arm rear suspension. That way each wheel is move according to it's terrain and not transfering it too much to the other wheel.

Ok, nice info, but what can you do about all this?

First, some machines have adjustable spring preload. If yours does, reduce the spring preload to soften the ride. But if you do, jack up the machine when you are done adjusting so the suspension fully hangs down. You want to make sure the spring does not come unseated from it's holders. That would be bad!! Meaning, you go over a jump, suspension fully lowers, spring moves, you come back to the ground and bad things happen that cost you lots of money to fix.

Well, if you buy a machine, look into what options are available for it from your dealer. Some manufacturers offer optional springs for the suspension that can be weaker or stronger than the stock springs. This is one way to soften up the ride if it's too harsh. These options were intended for female riders as they tend to be significantly lighter than the target male. But lighter weight males can also benefit from the lighter springs.

Another option is adjustable shocks. I'd focus on the rear as that will have a big impact on your ride. Some manufacturers use adjustable or rebuildable shocks on the rear suspension. If your machine does come with adustable, you can dial down the shock valving so the ride becomes softer. Just be aware if you do, you are also more likely to bottom out the suspension. But it sounds like you are not that likely to jump it off a 5 ft ramp. If the shock is rebuildable, you can take it to a shop that does shock rework and they can take it apart and put softer shock valving in it. If you get the shock valving adjusted, describe what your problems are to the tech. For exaple, if it passes on a lot of groud vibration to your butt and that causes problems, he can adjust for that. Or if it's the big bump that jars you up bad, he can adjust for that. But the tech would need to know what is ailing you.

If the shocks are not rebuildable or adjustable, you may need to buy aftermarket as they are typically adjustable and rebuildable. Not a cheap option, but it may get you what you want especially if you plan on logging significant miles on the machine.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
 07-27-2005, 12:12 Post: 113962
Iowafun

TP Contributor

View my Photos

View my Photos  Pics
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Central Iowa
TractorPoint Premium Member -- 5 Tractors = Very Frequent Poster
Posts: 955

Return to Full
 suspensions information needed

Brokenarrow - yes a solid rear axle swingarm style rear suspension may never be as plush as independant rear suspension, but you can make it better for you by messing with spring preload, spring rates and the shock. Look into what options are available for the machine you want. A new shock can be expensive, but if it means you aren't wiped out after riding for 2 hours and can walk the next day, it is probably worth it.

I'm not getting any younger and can better appreciate spending a bit to get better ride quality.






Reply to PostReply | Quote Post Reply to PostQuote Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo




Bookmarks: Digg It | Del.icio.us |
Reply | Pop Up Window Reply | Add PhotoAdd Photo


Page [ 1 ] |

Discussion Boards > Active Subjects > Messages as Posted > All Terrain Vehicles Forum

Thread 113864 Filter by Poster:
brokenarrow 3 | dsg 1 | Iowafun 2 | shinefeak 2 |

 (advanced search)

Picture of the Day
candoarms

Landscape Maintenance - Elm Tree Removal Minot North Dakota
Elm Tree Removal Minot North Dakota


Unanswered Questions

Gas Generator Weather Protecti
Horse Injured Polyrope Electri
Do electric fences keep out de
Any Peruvian Paso Owners Out T
gas powered post driver
My new born foal is really sic
Trailer Axle
dump trailer blueprints


Active Subjects

Gas Generator Weather Protecti
Went to see Dennis Reis this w
Signs to look for prior to lab
leg injury
Broodmare has welts all over h
Some Christmas Humor For Horse
poles in the ground vs. concre
ever thought about moving?


Hot Topics

new app owner
Some Christmas Humor For Horse
Any Peruvian Paso Owners Out T
Heating a Garage
Gas Generator Weather Protecti
Do electric fences keep out de
gas powered post driver
Trailer Axle


Featured Suppliers

Mountain Creek Labradoodles
      MountainCreekLabradoodles.com





New Forums on Gun Sport Shooting and Hunting -- BarrelPoint.com  New Forums on Horses ManePoint.com
Talk Horses at ManePoint
Hunting + Gun Sports at BarrelPoint



Most Viewed

+ Golf cart ATV or Gator type vehicle
+ 3 wheelers rule
+ Kubota s RTV
+ Using an ATV to plow snow
+ Kubota RTV 900-sticks in reverse
+ Polaris
+ your favorite ATV
+ The Gold Wing of ATV s
+ 100-acres with ATV trails--best way to do on 3rd g
+ An Interesting Comparison RTV vs 1987 Samurai

Most Discussion

+ Golf cart ATV or Gator type v
+ Kubota s RTV
+ 3 wheelers rule
+ The Gold Wing of ATV s
+ Kubota RTV 900 with Curtis Cab
+ Big Red has arrived
+ your favorite ATV
+ Using an ATV to plow snow
+ More Kubota RTV Problems
+ Kubota RTV 900-sticks in reve

Newest Topics

+ Is Polar the best UTV vehicle
+ Bad exhaust smell on Gator 550
+ Seed and Fertilizer Spreader for ATV
+ yamaha woverine 450ignition problems
+ AMT 600 Igniter Alternatives
+ 1998 suzuki quadrunner 300 electric start problem
+ 2001 John Deere Gator 6x4 Hydraulic Dump How to
+ John Deere Gator 4X2 electrical issues
+ Massey Ferguson ATV
+ 6x4 gator
















Turbochargers for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Cab Glass for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Alternators for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Radiators for Tractors and Industrial Machines

Driveline Components for Tractors and Industrial Machines
Starter Motors for Tractors and Industrial Machines